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Protecting Your Nest Egg: A Washington State Public Employee's Guide to Weathering Market Storms

6/12/2025

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As a Washington State public employee, you've worked hard to build your retirement savings through your DRS pension, Deferred Compensation Program (DCP), and Social Security. But retirement brings a fundamental shift from accumulating wealth to preserving and spending it wisely. This transition from your working years to retirement years requires a completely different approach to managing market volatility and protecting your nest egg.
Core Principles of Market Protection in Retirement
Understanding these fundamental principles will help you make smarter decisions about protecting your retirement savings:
  1. The spending phase is different: During your working years, market downturns were opportunities to buy more shares. In retirement, poor timing of withdrawals can permanently damage your portfolio¹
  2. Sequence of returns matters: The order of investment returns becomes critical when you're taking money out rather than putting money in²
  3. Washington State advantages: DRS members have guaranteed pension income that provides a foundation, allowing for more strategic investment approaches³
  4. Cash reserves provide flexibility: Having several years of expenses readily available prevents forced selling during market downturns⁴
  5. Guardrails guide spending decisions: A systematic approach to adjusting withdrawal rates based on portfolio performance protects long-term sustainability⁵
Your 5-Step Strategy for Market Protection
Step 1: Understand the Transition from Working Years to Retirement
During your working years, market volatility was actually your friend. When markets dropped, your regular DCP contributions bought more shares at lower prices. Dollar-cost averaging worked in your favor over decades of saving.
Retirement flips this equation completely. Now you're taking money out of your investments regularly to cover living expenses. If you're forced to sell investments during a market downturn, you lock in losses that can never be recovered. This is called sequence of returns risk, and it's one of the biggest threats to retirement security.
Consider two retirees who experience identical average returns over 20 years, but in different orders. The one who faces poor returns early in retirement may run out of money, while the one who experiences good returns early may preserve wealth for decades.
This is why your investment strategy must change as you transition from accumulation to withdrawal mode.
Step 2: Build Your "War Chest" of Safe Money
Create a buffer of cash and conservative investments equal to approximately 5 years of your maximum anticipated withdrawal needs. This war chest serves as your protection against being forced to sell growth investments during market downturns.
Here's how to structure your war chest:
  • Year 1: High-yield savings accounts and money market funds for immediate liquidity
  • Years 2-3: Short-term CDs or the DCP Stable Value Fund for modest growth with safety
  • Year 4-5: Bond funds for slightly higher returns
For example, if you plan to withdraw $40,000 annually from your DCP account in addition to your DRS pension and Social Security, your war chest should contain approximately $200,000 in safe, liquid investments.
Maria, a retired state employee, maintains her war chest in a combination of savings accounts and the DCP Stable Value Fund. When markets dropped in early 2022, she drew from her war chest instead of selling her stock investments, allowing them to recover.
Step 3: Implement a Guardrails Spending Strategy
Guardrails provide a systematic framework for adjusting your withdrawal rate based on your portfolio's performance. Instead of withdrawing the same amount every year regardless of market conditions, guardrails help you spend more when your portfolio is doing well and less when it's struggling.
Here's how guardrails work for spending:
  • Establish a target withdrawal rate (often 4-5% of your portfolio value)
  • Set upper and lower boundaries for spending adjustments
  • When your portfolio performs well, you can increase spending up to your upper guardrail
  • When your portfolio struggles, you reduce spending down to your lower guardrail
This approach protects your portfolio's longevity while still allowing you to enjoy the benefits of good market performance. The key is setting guardrails that are meaningful but not so restrictive that they create financial hardship.
Step 4: Coordinate All Your Income Sources
Your retirement income likely comes from multiple sources, and each has different characteristics that affect your overall strategy:
DRS Pension: This guaranteed monthly income provides your foundation and reduces the pressure on your investment portfolio. The larger your pension relative to your expenses, the more risk you can potentially take with your DCP investments.
Social Security: Another guaranteed income source that adjusts for inflation, providing additional security.
DCP Account: Your variable income source that requires careful management to last throughout retirement.
Tom, a highway engineer, receives $3,200 monthly from his DRS pension and $1,800 from Social Security, covering about 70% of his living expenses. This strong foundation allows him to take a more growth-oriented approach with his DCP investments while maintaining his 5-year war chest.
Step 5: Monitor and Adjust Based on Performance
Review your guardrails and war chest annually, making adjustments based on:
  • Portfolio performance over the past year
  • Changes in your spending needs
  • Major market events that might affect your strategy
  • Health changes that could impact your timeline
The goal is to remain flexible while staying disciplined about your overall approach.
Three Approaches to Retirement Portfolio Protection
Conservative Approach: Maintain a larger war chest (6-7 years of expenses) with tighter spending guardrails. Best for retirees with smaller pensions who rely heavily on their DCP accounts or those who prefer maximum security.
Balanced Approach: Use the standard 5-year war chest with moderate guardrails that allow for spending adjustments of 10-20% based on portfolio performance. Suitable for most Washington State retirees with solid pension foundations.
Growth-Focused Approach: Maintain the 5-year war chest but use wider guardrails that allow for more aggressive growth investing. Best for retirees with substantial pension income who can handle more volatility in their discretionary spending.
Case Study - Linda's Complete Strategy: Linda, a 65-year-old retired teacher, receives $2,800 monthly from TRS and $1,700 from Social Security. Her basic expenses are $4,200 monthly, leaving her needing only $300 monthly from her $450,000 DCP account. She built a $150,000 war chest (covering 5 years of maximum anticipated withdrawals) using savings accounts and the Stable Value Fund. Her guardrails allow her to withdraw between $15,000-$25,000 annually from her DCP based on portfolio performance, with the remainder invested for growth. When markets performed well in 2021, she increased her withdrawal to $22,000. During the 2022 downturn, she reduced to $17,000 and used her war chest to maintain her lifestyle.
Your Action Plan
  1. Calculate your guaranteed income from DRS pension and Social Security to understand how much you need from investments
  2. Determine your maximum annual withdrawal needs from your DCP account
  3. Build your war chest equal to 5 years of maximum withdrawals in safe, liquid investments
  4. Establish spending guardrails that allow for adjustments based on portfolio performance
  5. Create a withdrawal sequence that uses your war chest during market downturns
  6. Schedule annual reviews to adjust your strategy based on performance and changing needs
Remember, protecting your nest egg in retirement is about managing the transition from accumulation to distribution. The strategies that worked during your career need to evolve for this new phase of your financial life.
Sources and Resources
  1. Kitces Research – Understanding Sequence of Return Risk
  2. Morningstar - Dynamic Withdrawal Strategies
  3. Washington State Department of Retirement Systems - Retirement Planning
  4. Financial Planning Association – Determining Withdrawal Rates
  5. Kitces Research - Guardrails Strategy for Retirement Spending

-Seth Deal

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Legacy Planning Beyond Money: A Guide for Washington State Public Employees

6/5/2025

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As a Washington State public employee approaching retirement, you've likely spent years carefully saving through your DRS pension plan, a DCP account, and Social Security. But have you thought about your complete legacy? More than just financial assets, your legacy includes your values, wishes, and the meaningful impact you'll leave behind.
Many pre-retirees focus exclusively on money when planning for their future. However, a truly comprehensive legacy plan addresses both financial security and personal values. This approach ensures your life's work and wisdom continue to benefit your loved ones long after you're gone.
Core Principles of Comprehensive Legacy Planning
Creating a meaningful legacy requires attention to several key principles:
  1. Documentation matters: Having proper legal documents in place can save your family significant stress, time, and money¹
  2. Values transcend valuables: Research shows that inheritors often value personal items with emotional significance more highly than financial assets²
  3. Washington State considerations are unique: Our state's laws regarding estate taxes and probate differ significantly from federal regulations³
  4. Communication prevents conflicts: Family disputes over inheritances are reduced by 65% when plans are clearly communicated before they're needed⁴
  5. Digital assets require special attention: Washington's Uniform Fiduciary Access to Digital Assets Act provides a framework for handling your online accounts⁵
Let's explore a practical, step-by-step approach to creating a legacy plan that truly reflects your life and values.
Your 5-Step Strategy for Comprehensive Legacy Planning
Step 1: Create Essential Legal Documents
The foundation of any legacy plan is proper documentation. As a Washington State employee, you'll need:
  • A will or living trust that clearly states how you want your assets distributed
  • Durable powers of attorney for financial and healthcare decisions
  • Advanced healthcare directive (living will)
  • Beneficiary designation forms for your DRS pension, DCP account, and other retirement assets
These documents ensure your wishes are legally binding. Without them, Washington State intestacy laws will determine what happens to your assets, which may not align with your intentions.
Step 2: Organize Your Financial Records
Make it easy for your loved ones to manage your affairs by creating a complete inventory of:
  • Your DRS pension information and estimated benefit amounts
  • Bank accounts, investment accounts, and insurance policies
  • Property deeds, vehicle titles, and other ownership documents
  • Debts and ongoing financial obligations
  • Contact information for your financial advisor, attorney, and tax professional
Step 3: Plan for Personal Possessions with Emotional Value
Often, the items that cause the most conflict in families aren't the valuable ones, but those with emotional significance. Address these specifically by:
  • Creating a personal property memorandum listing who should receive specific items
  • Documenting the stories behind meaningful possessions
  • Considering early gifting of items you no longer need
Step 4: Share Your Values and Wisdom
Beyond physical assets, your legacy includes your values, stories, and life lessons. Consider:
  • Writing ethical wills or legacy letters sharing your values and hopes for future generations
  • Recording video or audio messages for loved ones
  • Creating a family history or memoir
  • Establishing guidelines for any charitable giving you wish to continue after you're gone
Step 5: Plan for Digital Assets and Online Accounts
Your digital life is part of your legacy too. Make provisions for:
  • Email and social media accounts
  • Digital photos and videos
  • Online financial accounts
  • Subscription services
  • Websites or blogs you maintain
Under Washington's digital assets law, you need to give explicit permission for your executor to access these accounts.
Case Study: A Washington State Employee's Comprehensive Legacy Plan
Tom, a 63-year-old engineer with the Washington State Department of Transportation, created a legacy plan that went far beyond money. Here's how he approached it:
First, Tom worked with an attorney to create essential legal documents, including a will, powers of attorney, and healthcare directive. He also updated beneficiary designations on his DRS pension, naming his wife as primary beneficiary with a 100% survivor benefit.
Next, he inventoried his assets: a home in Vancouver worth $450,000, his DRS pension ($5,300/month), DCP account ($500,000), and personal property. He created a spreadsheet with account numbers and contacts for his financial advisor and attorney.
For personal items, Tom created a memorandum listing who should receive specific items, including his collection of engineering books to a younger colleague and his grandfather's pocket watch to his son.
To share his values, Tom wrote letters to his children and grandchildren explaining his life philosophy and hopes for their futures. He also established a $50,000 donor-advised fund focused on engineering education, reflecting his professional values.
Finally, Tom created a document with login information for his digital accounts and instructions for handling his extensive digital photo collection and online subscriptions.
Your Action Plan for Creating Your Legacy
  1. Schedule a legal consultation: Meet with an estate planning attorney familiar with Washington State laws and DRS benefits
  2. Create a comprehensive inventory: List all financial accounts, physical assets, and digital property
  3. Document your wishes for personal items: Create a memorandum of who should receive specific possessions
  4. Share your values: Write letters, record videos, or create other ways to share your wisdom
  5. Communicate your plans: Have conversations with loved ones about your wishes to prevent future confusion
Remember that legacy planning is a personal process that should reflect your unique situation and values. What works perfectly for your colleague might not be the optimal approach for you. Consider working with professionals who understand both Washington State laws and DRS benefits to create a plan that truly reflects your wishes.
Sources and Resources
  1. Washington State Bar Association - Estate Planning
  2. Journal of Financial Planning - "Beyond the Dollar: The Meaning of Inheritance"
  3. Washington State Department of Revenue - Estate Tax
  4. BMO Wealth Institute - "The family conversation you should not avoid"
  5. Washington State Legislature - Uniform Fiduciary Access to Digital Assets Act
  6. Washington State Department of Retirement Systems - Retirement Planning Checklist​

-Seth Deal

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Combatting Loneliness in Retirement: A Guide for Washington State Employees

5/29/2025

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After decades of serving the public in Washington State, retirement offers well-deserved freedom. Yet for many DRS members, the transition from a workplace filled with daily interactions to more unstructured days can lead to unexpected isolation.
About 43% of adults over 60 report feeling lonely regularly¹, and the impact on both mental and physical health can be significant. As you prepare for retirement from the public sector, understanding how to maintain and build meaningful connections deserves as much attention as your financial planning.
Core Principles for Preventing Loneliness in Retirement
  1. Proactive relationship building: Social connections require intentional cultivation, especially after leaving the workplace where relationships often develop naturally².
  2. Purpose drives fulfillment: Meaningful activities that connect you with others and provide a sense of contribution are strongly linked to retirement satisfaction³.
  3. Community engagement matters: Washington State offers unique opportunities for retirees through programs like the Retired Public Employees Council (RPEC) that provide both social connection and continued engagement with state issues⁴.
  4. Health and social wellbeing are interconnected: Research shows that maintaining strong social ties reduces the risk of depression by 30% and may reduce cognitive decline by up to 50%⁵.
  5. Digital connections complement in-person relationships: While technology cannot replace face-to-face interaction, it offers valuable ways to maintain connections, especially given Washington's geography with both urban centers and remote communities⁶.
Your 5-Step Strategy for Building a Connected Retirement
1. Plan Your Social Transition Before Your Last Day
The months before retirement are crucial for establishing your social network beyond work. Too many public employees wait until after retirement to think about their social connections.
Steps to take before retirement:
  • Identify colleagues you want to maintain relationships with beyond work
  • Exchange personal contact information and schedule the first post-retirement gathering
  • Research and join retiree groups like the Washington State School Retirees' Association or RPEC⁴
  • Attend pre-retirement workshops focused on the social aspects of retirement (DRS offers these quarterly)
2. Reimagine Your Identity Beyond Your Career
For many public servants, work identity becomes deeply entwined with personal identity. Retirement requires finding new ways to define yourself.
Ways to develop post-career identity:
  • List your values and interests separate from your professional role
  • Explore activities you've always wanted to try but never had time for
  • Consider how your skills from public service could transfer to volunteer roles
  • Join groups based on interests rather than profession
3. Create Structure With Social Components
Unstructured time can lead to isolation. Creating routines that naturally include interaction with others provides both purpose and connection.
Ideas for social structure:
  • Join a regular fitness class at your local community center (Washington State employees get discounted rates at many community centers)⁷
  • Volunteer on a consistent schedule (Washington's RSVP program specifically connects retirees with volunteer opportunities)⁸
  • Take multi-week classes at community colleges (tuition-free for residents over 60 at many Washington State institutions)⁹
  • Participate in regular community events like farmers markets or neighborhood meetings
4. Leverage Technology Thoughtfully
Digital tools can help maintain and build connections, especially important in Washington State where weather and geography can sometimes limit in-person gatherings.
Effective ways to use technology:
  • Schedule regular video calls with family and friends who live at a distance
  • Join online communities related to your interests (Washington State has numerous regional online groups)
  • Use apps designed for social connection like Meetup to find local events
  • Consider taking a technology class specifically for seniors at your local library
5. Prioritize Physical Wellbeing as a Foundation for Social Health
Physical health limitations can become barriers to social engagement. Maintaining your health supports your ability to stay connected.
Key health habits that support social connection:
  • Maintain mobility through regular exercise (Washington State Parks offer free entrance days for seniors)¹⁰
  • Address hearing or vision issues promptly as they can lead to social withdrawal
  • Establish regular sleep patterns, which affect both energy and mood
  • Consider transportation options for when driving might become difficult (King County offers reduced senior fares on public transportation)¹¹
Alternative Approaches: Three Pathways to Connection
The Mentor Approach
Some retirees find fulfillment by sharing their professional expertise. Washington's Retired and Senior Volunteer Program can connect you with opportunities to mentor younger professionals or students. This approach works well for those who derived significant satisfaction from their professional identity.
The Explorer Approach
Other retirees prefer to develop entirely new interests and social circles. Organizations like Washington State University's Extension programs offer classes and workshops in everything from master gardening to financial literacy, providing structured ways to develop new skills alongside others.
The Community Builder Approach
Some find meaning in addressing community needs. Serving on local boards, participating in community planning, or volunteering for civic organizations allows you to continue contributing to public good while building relationships with diverse community members.
Your Action Plan
  1. Three months before retirement, identify and join at least one organization or group related to your interests.
  2. During your first month of retirement, establish a weekly schedule that includes at least three activities involving other people.
  3. Schedule regular check-ins with former colleagues for the first six months after retirement.
  4. Within six months, identify a new skill you want to learn in a group setting and enroll in a related class or workshop.
  5. By your one-year retirement anniversary, evaluate your social connections and identify any gaps you want to address.
Remember that combating loneliness requires both planning and flexibility. Your approach should align with your personality and interests, and may evolve over time. Many financial advisors can help with both the financial and social aspects of retirement planning.
Sources and Resources
  1. National Institute on Aging - Social isolation and loneliness in older people
  2. Journal of Gerontology - Social Relationships and Health in Later Life
  3. American Psychological Association - Finding meaning in retirement
  4. Retired Public Employees Council of Washington
  5. Centers for Disease Control - The Health Benefits of Social Connection
  6. AARP - Technology Use Among Older Adults
  7. Washington State Recreation & Conservation Office
  8. Washington State RSVP Program
  9. Washington State Board for Community and Technical Colleges - Senior Citizen Tuition Waivers
  10. Washington State Parks - Senior Citizen Passes
  11. King County Metro - ORCA LIFT and Senior Fares​

-Seth Deal

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Test-Drive Your Retirement Budget: A Guide for Washington State Employees

5/22/2025

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Are you making the most of your retirement planning? As a Washington State public employee approaching retirement, understanding how to test-drive your future budget could save you from financial surprises. Many don't realize the full range of strategies available to ensure their retirement income will truly support their desired lifestyle.
Core Principles for Test-Driving Your Retirement BudgetTest-driving your retirement budget represents a valuable planning strategy that deserves careful consideration. For Washington State employees, several key principles should guide your approach:
1.        Reality often differs from expectations: Studies show 46% of retirees spend more than expected in early retirement¹
2.        Your fixed pension creates unique opportunities: Your DRS pension provides predictable income that needs careful coordination with other resources²
3.        State-specific factors matter: Washington's tax structure and benefit systems create distinct planning considerations³
4.        Emotional and lifestyle changes affect spending: Your daily habits will change, often leading to unexpected spending patterns
Your 5-Step Strategy for Test-Driving Your Retirement BudgetStep 1: Calculate Your Expected Retirement Income·       Your DRS Pension: Use the DRS benefit estimator tool for your specific plan²
·       Social Security: With the recent repeal of the Windfall Elimination Provision, Washington State employees now receive full benefits⁴
·       Personal Savings: Calculate safe investment withdrawal rates
·       Other Income: Include rental properties, part-time work, or other income sources
Step 2: Track Your Current Spending·       Track every expense for 2-3 months using a spreadsheet or budgeting app
·       Categorize spending and calculate monthly averages
·       Pay attention to work-related expenses that will disappear in retirement
Step 3: Adjust Your Budget for Retirement Reality·       Eliminate work-related expenses: Commuting, professional clothing, workplace lunches
·       Adjust for new expenses: Higher healthcare costs, new hobbies, travel
·       Consider Washington-specific factors: Healthcare costs through PEBB, property tax exemptions for seniors³
Remember that while you'll no longer contribute to your pension, you may have higher healthcare premiums if you retire before Medicare eligibility.
Step 4: Live on Your Retirement Budget for 3-6 Months·       Set up a separate account with your estimated retirement income
·       Live exclusively on this account for the test period
·       Track any challenges or shortfalls you experience
For DRS members, this step is crucial because your pension provides fixed income that won't easily adjust to unexpected spending needs.
Step 5: Refine and Repeat·       Analyze where you struggled or had surpluses
·       Adjust your retirement income plans if needed
·       Consider working longer or adjusting your lifestyle
Alternative Approaches to Test-Driving Your Retirement BudgetFor those who can't commit to a full test, consider these alternatives:
The Partial Practice ApproachFocus on specific categories where retirement will bring the biggest changes, like redirecting commuting costs to your retirement activities fund.
The Step-Down ApproachGradually reduce your spending over 1-2 years before retirement, reducing spending by 10% every three months until you reach your retirement budget level.
The Category Replacement MethodEach month, replace one budget category with its retirement equivalent—particularly useful for testing property tax impacts with Washington's senior exemption programs.³
The 80% Rule with AdjustmentsStart by testing a budget at 80% of your current income, then refine based on your specific situation.
Case Study: A Washington DRS Employee Tests the WatersMeet James, a 58-year-old IT specialist with the State Department of Revenue with 22 years in PERS Plan 2. His expected retirement income:
·       PERS Plan 2 pension (total): $3,000/month
·       Social Security: $2,100/month
·       Personal savings: $700/month
·       Total: $5,800/month
For three months, James lived on $5,800 monthly while banking the difference. This real-world test revealed important insights:
·       His commuting costs disappeared
·       Healthcare costs would increase until Medicare eligibility
·       He spent more monthly on hobbies than anticipated
·       Utility bills were higher because he was home more often
These discoveries allowed James to make strategic adjustments before retirement:
·       Increasing his DCP contributions
·       Planning to work an extra year to increase benefits
·       Researching senior property tax exemptions in Washington³
·       Finding free recreational activities through state senior programs
Your Action Plan for Test-Driving Your Retirement Budget1.        Calculate your expected retirement income: Use the DRS benefit estimator and Social Security calculator²
2.        Track current expenses: Document all spending for 2-3 months
3.        Develop your retirement budget: Create your projected retirement spending plan
4.        Choose your test-drive approach: Select the method that best fits your timeline
5.        Execute your test and analyze results: Follow through and make necessary adjustments
Remember that these decisions are highly personal. Your health, financial situation, retirement goals, and family circumstances all play important roles in determining the best approach for you.
Sources and Resources1.        Employee Benefit Research Institute, "Retirement Confidence Survey"
2.        Washington State Department of Retirement Systems
3.        Washington State Department of Revenue, "Property Tax Exemptions"
4.        Social Security Administration, "Social Security Fairness Act"
5.        Health Care Authority, "PEBB Retiree Benefits"

-Seth Deal

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Maximizing Your Social Security Benefits: Smart Strategies for Washington State Public Employees

5/15/2025

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​Are you making the most of your Social Security benefits? As a Washington State public employee approaching retirement, understanding how to optimize this important income source could add thousands of dollars to your retirement security. Many don't realize the full range of strategies available to maximize their benefits.
Whether you've spent your entire career in public service or split your time between public and private sectors, how and when you claim Social Security can significantly impact your retirement income.
Core Principles for Maximizing Your Social Security BenefitsSocial Security benefits represent a valuable inflation-protected, lifetime income stream that deserves careful planning. For Washington State employees, several key principles should guide your strategy:
1.        Timing matters: When you claim benefits can increase or decrease your monthly payment by as much as 76%⁸
2.        Your earnings record is crucial: Your benefit is based on your 35 highest-earning years of covered employment⁸
3.        Coordination is key: Aligning your Social Security strategy with your DRS pension can optimize your total retirement income⁹
4.        Recent law changes benefit you: The repeal of WEP and GPO provisions in January 2025 means Washington State employees can now receive their full earned Social Security benefits without reduction¹,²
Timing is Everything: Strategic Claiming Ages for Maximum BenefitsThe single most powerful lever for maximizing your Social Security benefits is your claiming age. This decision can increase or decrease your lifetime benefit by tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars.
You can claim Social Security as early as age 62, but your benefit will be permanently reduced - up to 30% less than your full retirement age benefit⁸. For many people born after 1960, full retirement age is 67. Waiting until age 70 allows your benefit to grow by 8% per year beyond your full retirement age, potentially increasing your monthly payment by up to 24%⁸.
For Washington State employees, coordinating your DRS pension start date with your Social Security claiming strategy is crucial. Your pension can provide income during the years you're delaying Social Security to maximize your eventual benefit. This is called a "bridge strategy" and can be highly effective for maximizing lifetime income⁹.
The Social Security Administration provides detailed calculators on their website to help you estimate your benefit amounts at different claiming ages⁸.
Powerful Strategies for Married Couples to Maximize Household BenefitsFor married couples, coordinating Social Security claiming strategies can dramatically increase your household's lifetime benefits. This coordination is especially important for Washington State public employees who may have different work histories than their spouses.
The Higher-Earner Delay Strategy The higher-earning spouse should generally delay claiming until age 70 if possible. This provides two major benefits¹⁰:
1.        It maximizes the higher earner's own monthly benefit
2.        It maximizes the survivor benefit for the lower-earning spouse
This survivor benefit protection is one of the most valuable and often overlooked aspects of Social Security planning¹⁰.
Split Strategy for Cash Flow Management You can also implement a "split strategy" where the lower-earning spouse claims earlier (perhaps at 62-66) while the higher earner delays until 70⁹. This approach:
·       Provides early retirement income
·       Preserves cash savings
·       Maximizes the higher earner's benefit
·       Optimizes the potential survivor benefit
Leverage Your DRS Pension for Greater Flexibility Your Washington State pension creates unique opportunities in Social Security planning. If your pension provides substantial income and you can comfortably delay Social Security to maximize your eventual benefit. This pension-and-delay strategy is often the optimal approach for maximizing lifetime household income⁹.
Boosting Your Benefits Through Strategic Earnings PlanningYour Social Security benefit is calculated based on your 35 highest-earning years in Social Security-covered employment⁸. This calculation method creates powerful opportunities for Washington State employees to maximize their benefits through strategic earnings planning.
Fill the Gaps in Your Earnings Record Some public employees have years with zero Social Security earnings because they worked in non-covered government positions. Each "zero" year significantly reduces your eventual benefit. The solution? Add more years of covered earnings to your record. Even working part-time in retirement can substantially increase your benefit⁸,¹¹.
Strategic Post-Retirement Work Consider these high-impact earning strategies after retiring from your state position:
·       Part-time consulting in your field of expertise
·       Seasonal work during peak periods
·       Teaching or training positions that leverage your professional knowledge
·       Remote work options that provide flexibility
Even earning $15,000-$20,000 annually for a few years can dramatically improve your Social Security benefit if you have gaps in your earnings record¹¹.
Your Action Plan for Maximizing Social Security BenefitsThe strategies we've covered can potentially add tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars to your lifetime retirement income. Social Security represents one of your most valuable retirement assets—it's inflation-protected, guaranteed for life, and partially tax-advantaged. Making informed decisions about how to maximize this benefit is one of the most important aspects of retirement planning.
Here's your action plan for maximizing your Social Security benefits:
1.        Review your earnings record: Create an account at ssa.gov and verify that your earnings history is accurate⁸
2.        Run the numbers: Use the Social Security calculators to see how different claiming ages affect your benefit amount⁸
3.        Coordinate with your spouse: If married, develop a household strategy that maximizes both individual and survivor benefits¹⁰
4.        Align with your pension: Structure your retirement timing to use your pension strategically with Social Security⁹
5.        Consider strategic work: Evaluate whether additional work could meaningfully increase your benefit¹¹
Remember that these decisions are highly personal. Your health, financial situation, retirement goals, and family circumstances all play important roles in determining the best approach for you. What works perfectly for your colleague might not be the optimal strategy for your situation.
Consider working with a financial advisor who understands both the Washington State Retirement Systems and Social Security rules. They can help you analyze your specific circumstances and develop a personalized claiming strategy that aligns with your broader retirement plans.
Sources and Resources1. Social Security Administration - Social Security Fairness Act
2. MissionSquare - Social Security Fairness Act Repealing WEP/GPO Becomes Law
3. Government Executive - Retroactive benefits from the windfall elimination repeal to begin
4. LACERA - Update: Social Security Expedites WEP/GPO Repeal and Payments
5. NARFE - NARFE Applauds Historic Repeal of WEP/GPO With the Signing of the Social Security Fairness Act
6. IAFF - The WEP & GPO have been repealed. Now what?
7. Government Executive - SSA: It could take more than a year to implement the WEP and GPO repeal
8. Social Security Administration - When to Start Receiving Retirement Benefits
9. Social Security Administration - Retirement Benefits
10. Social Security Administration - Benefits For Your Spouse
11. Social Security Administration - How Work Affects Your Benefits
12. Center for Retirement Research at Boston College - Should You Take Social Security at 62?
13. Social Security Administration - Income Taxes And Your Social Security Benefit
Washington State Department of Retirement Systems
Washington State Retirement Planning Checklist

-Seth Deal

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Long Term Care Insurance: Do You Really Need It?

5/8/2025

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When planning for retirement, most people think about their investments, pension, Social Security or where they'll live. But there's another important question many Washington public employees approaching retirement should consider: "Do I really need long-term care insurance?"

This question becomes even more relevant with the WA Cares Fund now in effect, Washington's state-mandated long-term care program. But is this coverage enough, or should you consider additional protection?

What Exactly Is Long-Term Care Insurance?

Long-term care insurance helps cover costs for assistance with daily activities like bathing, dressing, or eating when you can no longer do these things independently. These services aren't typically covered by regular health insurance or Medicare.

For example, the average annual cost of a semi-private room in a nursing home in Washington State is about $152,570, while home health aide services average around $96,096 per year.[1] Without proper planning, these costs could quickly drain your retirement savings.

The WA Cares Fund: Understanding Your State Benefit

If you're employed in Washington State, you're likely paying into the WA Cares Fund through a payroll tax. This program provides a lifetime benefit of $36,500 (adjusted for inflation) for qualified long-term care needs.[2]

While this benefit is helpful, it may not cover extended care needs. The $36,500 benefit would cover a fraction of the care needed.

Start With Understanding Your Financial Picture During a Care Event

The first step in determining if you need long-term care insurance isn't looking at policies—it's understanding how a long-term care event would impact your specific financial situation.

For Married Couples

When one spouse needs care, the financial impact is complex:
·       Expenses often increase dramatically with care costs
·       The healthy spouse still needs sufficient income and assets for their own living expenses
·       While pension income remains stable, the overall household budget changes significantly
·       The healthy spouse may need to reduce their own activities to provide care

For Single Individuals

The financial equation is different if you're single:
·       Your entire pension and other income is available to pay for care
·       Without a spouse to provide informal care, you might need paid care sooner and for more hours per day
·       Asset protection becomes a different consideration without a spouse's needs to consider

Key Factors to Consider Before Purchasing Long-Term Care Insurance
1. Your Overall Financial Picture
Take Sarah's story as a cautionary tale. At 68, she purchased an expensive long-term care policy, fearing future health costs. The premiums increased dramatically over time, straining her budget. She later realized her assets might have been sufficient to self-insure.

2. Policy Details Matter
When evaluating policies, look closely at:
·       Benefit period (how long benefits last)
·       Elimination period (waiting time before benefits begin)
·       Inflation protection
·       Premium increase history of the insurer

3. Hybrid Policies as an Alternative
Many insurers now offer hybrid policies that combine life insurance with long-term care benefits. These products address one of the biggest objections to traditional long-term care insurance: "What if I pay all these premiums and never need care?"

With hybrid policies, your beneficiaries receive a death benefit if you don't use the long-term care portion. However, these policies typically require a larger upfront payment.

4. The Washington State Alternative: Partnership Policies
Washington participates in the Long-Term Care Partnership Program, which allows qualified insurance policies to protect a corresponding amount of your assets if you need to apply for Medicaid after exhausting your policy benefits.[3]

For example, if your partnership policy pays $300,000 in benefits, you could protect an additional $300,000 in assets and still qualify for Medicaid.

Alternative Strategies to Long-Term Care Insurance

Traditional long-term care insurance isn't the only way to prepare for potential care needs. Here are some alternative approaches:

1. Self-Insuring
If you have substantial assets, you might choose to set aside specific funds earmarked for potential long-term care needs. This approach gives you flexibility but requires disciplined saving and investment.

2. Home Equity Strategies
For many, their home is their largest asset. Options include:
·       Reverse mortgages
·       Home equity lines of credit
·       Downsizing to free up equity

3. Family Care Agreements
Some families create formal agreements where family members provide care in exchange for payment or future inheritance. These arrangements require careful planning and clear communication.

Making an Informed Decision
Before making any decision about long-term care planning:
·       Map out how your income and expenses would change during a care event
·       Review your retirement income sources and assets
·       Consider your family health history
·       Explore all options, including self-insurance and alternative strategies
·       Get quotes from multiple insurers if considering traditional policies
·       Consult with a financial professional familiar with Washington State's specific programs

Remember that traditional long-term care insurance isn't right for everyone. For some public employees, the combination of pensions, personal savings, alternative strategies, the WA Cares benefit may be sufficient. For others, dedicated insurance provides valuable peace of mind.

The right answer depends on your unique financial situation, health outlook, and comfort with risk. The most important thing is making an informed decision that aligns with your overall retirement plan.

Sources
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1.        https://www.carescout.com/cost-of-care
2.        https://wacaresfund.wa.gov/about
3.        https://www.insurance.wa.gov/insurance-resources/long-term-care   ​

-Seth Deal

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The "Magic Number" Myth: What Washington Public Employees Really Need to Know About Retirement Planning

5/1/2025

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​"How much do you need to have saved to feel confident in retirement in addition to your pension?"

This question often leads to a specific dollar amount—$500,000, $750,000, or even $1 million. When asked how they arrived at that figure, many Washington public employees cite online calculators or general rules of thumb.

After working with government employees across Washington State, one thing becomes clear: The "magic number" approach to retirement planning is often misleading, especially for those with pensions. Here's what actually works in 2025.

The Real Way to Calculate Your Retirement Needs

The most effective retirement planning process for Washington public employees looks quite different from the standard approach:

Step 1: Start With Your Life, Not a Formula

Most financial literature suggest you'll need 55-80% of your pre-retirement income [1]. However, this generic guidance misses a crucial point: Your retirement spending depends on YOUR specific plans, not statistical averages.

A more effective approach:
·       Create a detailed breakdown of your current spending patterns
·       Identify which expenses will change in retirement (commuting costs down, travel expenses up?)
·       Pay special attention to healthcare costs, which typically increase
·       Separate essential expenses (housing, food, utilities) from discretionary ones (travel, hobbies) [2]

The reality is that retirement spending varies significantly based on individual goals and circumstances. Some public employees find they need more than their working income to fund active retirement plans, while others require substantially less after downsizing or relocating.

Step 2: Understand Your Unique Income Mix

As a Washington public employee, your retirement income structure has distinct advantages:
1.        Your defined benefit pension (PERS, TRS, LEOFF, or other systems)
2.        Social Security benefits
3.        Personal savings (DCP/457b plans, IRAs, etc.)

Your target for savings depends heavily on your pension benefits. Here's how to find your true savings requirement:
1.        Calculate your expected annual expenses in retirement
2.        Subtract your projected pension and Social Security income
3.        The remaining gap is what your savings need to cover

For example, if you need $80,000 annually but will receive $35,000 from your pension and $25,000 from Social Security, your savings only need to generate $20,000 per year—a substantially different target than for someone without a pension.

Step 3: The 4% Rule Reimagined for Public Employees

The traditional 4% rule suggests multiplying your annual withdrawal need by 25. While this provides a useful starting point, Washington public employees should consider:
·       The security of your pension fundamentally changes the equation (you need less in liquid savings)
·       Utilizing a dynamic withdrawal plan that adjusts based on your portfolio balance
·       Your personal risk tolerance affects your "safe" withdrawal rate

For the example above, if your savings need to generate $20,000 annually:
·       Traditional 4% rule: $20,000 ÷ 0.04 = $500,000

Step 4: Reality-Check Your Progress

Standard retirement savings milestones rarely account for defined benefit pensions. Here's a more appropriate approach for Washington public employees:
1.        Calculate your expected annual pension using DRS tools or estimates
2.        Determine what percentage of your retirement needs will be covered by guaranteed sources
3.        Track progress toward funding the remaining gap

If your pension and Social Security will cover 75% of your needs, you're in a significantly different position than someone who must fund their entire retirement from savings.

Step 5: Stress-Test Your Plan for 2025's Realities

Your retirement plan must withstand real-world challenges:
·       Inflation fluctuations
·       Market volatility
·       Unexpected healthcare expenses
·       Longevity considerations (planning to age 95+ is increasingly prudent) [3]

Creating multiple scenarios helps test your plan's resilience:
·       Best case (strong market returns, moderate inflation)
·       Expected case (average returns, typical inflation)
·       Stress case (poor returns, higher inflation, unexpected expenses)

The Washington Public Employee Advantage

Here's what many financial advisors miss: Washington public employees possess unique advantages in retirement planning. Your pension provides a foundation of guaranteed lifetime income that most Americans simply don't have.

This pension foundation dramatically changes both your required savings amount and optimal withdrawal strategy. With a significant portion of essential expenses covered by guaranteed income, you may have more flexibility with your investment approach.

Your Action Plan
1. Next 24 Hours: List all your expected retirement expenses in two columns: "Must-Haves" and "Nice-to-Haves"
2. This Week: Request your pension estimate from the Department of Retirement Systems to see exactly what your monthly benefit will be
3. This Month: Create your "gap funding plan" to determine how much your savings need to generate annually
4. This Quarter: Test your plan against different inflation and market scenarios

There is no universal "magic number" for retirement—especially for Washington public employees with defined benefit pensions.

What matters is understanding your specific income sources, expenses, and how they work together. With the right approach that accounts for your unique benefits, you might discover you're closer to retirement readiness than generic calculators suggest.

Sources
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[1] https://www.fidelity.com/viewpoints/retirement/retirement-income-sources
[2] https://www.tiaa.org/public/pdf/r/retirement_expense-income_worksheets.pdf
[3] https://www.nerdwallet.com/calculator/retirement-calculator

-Seth Deal

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Beating Inflation: Strategies for Washington Public Employees

4/24/2025

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"My pension doesn't stretch as far as it used to."

This concern has become increasingly common among Washington public employees. After decades of service to state or local government, many retirees are discovering that today's economic reality requires a more comprehensive approach to retirement planning.

Here's the reality: Your Washington public employee pension is valuable, but in today's inflationary environment, it's just one piece of the puzzle. Let's explore what's working for public sector retirees facing inflation.

Understanding Inflation's Impact on Your Retirement
First, some positive news: Social Security's 2025 Cost-of-Living Adjustment (COLA) is giving retirees a 2.5% boost [1]. Similarly, the Department of Retirement Systems (DRS) provided a 3% COLA for Washington public pension recipients in 2024 [2].

However, relying solely on these COLAs often isn't sufficient to maintain purchasing power, particularly when healthcare costs and housing expenses frequently outpace official inflation rates.

The Multi-Shield Strategy for Inflation Protection
Washington public employees who are successfully navigating inflation typically employ a multi-layered approach:

Shield 1: Strategic Income Stacking
The "Layer Cake" approach creates resilience against inflation:
·       Base Layer: Washington public pension (PERS, TRS, LEOFF, or other systems)
·       Middle Layer: Social Security benefits
·       Top Layer: Strategic investments specifically designed to combat inflation

This structure works effectively because:

·       Each income source serves a specific purpose
·       You're not overly dependent on any single income stream
·       You can adjust certain layers as inflation changes

Shield 2: The Modern Investment Approach
The traditional 60/40 portfolio may not provide adequate inflation protection. A more effective approach for public employees involves:
·       Mapping out your specific cash flow needs from your portfolio
·       Holding 1-2 years of expenses in cash or cash equivalents earning competitive interest
·       Allocating 2-4 years of expenses to short-term, high-quality bonds
·       Investing the remainder in equities for long-term inflation protection

This time-segmented approach provides both security and growth potential.


Practical Inflation Protection Strategies
The Healthcare Shield
Healthcare costs continue to rise faster than general inflation. Washington public employees are addressing this challenge through:
·       Maximizing HSA contributions while still working (if eligible through a qualifying high-deductible health plan)
·       Selecting optimal Medicare supplement plans that complement PEBB benefits
·       Building dedicated healthcare emergency funds separate from general savings
The Housing Defense
Housing typically represents a significant retirement expense. Effective strategies include:
·       Relocating to lower-cost areas within Washington state
·       Making strategic downsizing decisions before or during early retirement
·       Accelerating mortgage payoff before retirement
·       Exploring property tax exemption programs available to seniors in Washington
The Tax Efficiency Strategy
It's not just about your gross income—it's about how much you keep after taxes. Successful approaches include:
·       Using Roth conversions strategically during lower-income years
·       Planning withdrawal sequences to minimize tax impact
·       Utilizing tax-loss harvesting opportunities in taxable accounts
The Flexible Spending Framework
Creating flexibility in your spending allows you to adapt to inflation without sacrificing quality of life:
1.        Separate expenses into two categories:
o   Essential expenses (utilities, food, healthcare, housing)
o   Discretionary spending (travel, dining, entertainment, gifts)
2.        Build adaptability into your budget by:
o   Adjusting discretionary spending during high inflation periods
o   Keeping essential expenses as efficient as possible
o   Maintaining multiple income sources for flexibility

Your Washington public employee pension provides a valuable foundation for retirement security. However, in the current inflationary environment, complementary strategies are essential for maintaining purchasing power.


The good news is that with thoughtful planning, Washington public employees can create retirement systems that successfully withstand inflation pressures. By implementing these multi-layered approaches, you can focus more on enjoying retirement and less on worrying about rising prices.


Sources
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[1] https://www.ssa.gov/cola/
[2] https://www.drs.wa.gov/life/retired/cola/
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When Health Forces Early Retirement: A Guide for Washington Public Employees

4/17/2025

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​"I thought I had another decade to prepare. Now I don't even know where to start."
This sentiment captures the uncertainty many Washington public employees feel when health issues force them to consider early retirement. It's a challenging transition that happens more often than we discuss—and one that requires specialized planning for those in public service.
If you're a Washington state or local government employee facing this difficult decision, here's what you need to know about your options.
The Truth About Early Medical RetirementFirst, let's be clear about something important: Early retirement due to health issues isn't a failure of planning. It's a life circumstance that requires adaptation. And as a Washington public employee, you have more resources and options than you might realize.
What's Working for Washington Public EmployeesThe Healthcare Bridge StrategyThe biggest concern for most public employees facing early retirement? Healthcare coverage before Medicare eligibility at 65. Here are the most effective approaches:
·       COBRA coverage for immediate needs (up to 18 months)
·       Health insurance marketplace plans (often with income-based subsidies)
·       PEBB coverage through the State
·       Coverage through a spouse's employer
·       Part-time work specifically for benefits
The Income Protection PlanMany public employees are surprised to discover they have multiple potential income sources available:
·       Disability retirement benefits through DRS (if you qualify) [1]
·       Early pension payments (with careful consideration of reduction factors)
·       Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI)
·       Personal savings and investments
Understanding how these various income streams work together—and their different eligibility requirements—is essential for creating financial stability.
The Washington Public Employee AdvantageWashington offers exceptional support through the Aging and Long-Term Support Administration (ALTSA). This includes:
·       Care coordination services
·       In-home support programs
·       Health maintenance resources
·       Specialized connection services [2]
These programs can be particularly valuable for public employees transitioning to early retirement due to health concerns.
Creating Your Financial Safety NetThe Healthcare Cost ShieldEffective strategies for Washington public employees include:
·       Setting up an HSA if you're eligible (and still employed in a qualifying high-deductible health plan)
·       Building a dedicated medical emergency fund
·       Understanding and planning for out-of-pocket maximums
·       Creating a comprehensive prescription drug strategy [3]
The Budget ResetWhen health forces early retirement, a comprehensive budget reset becomes essential:
1.        Create a "medical first" budget that:
o   Prioritizes healthcare expenses
o   Adjusts for changed income levels
o   Accounts for insurance premiums
o   Plans for prescription costs [4]
2.        Develop a comprehensive timeline that includes:
o   Benefit application deadlines
o   Healthcare coverage transitions
o   Income stream coordination
o   Treatment planning [5]
This approach ensures that your most critical needs are addressed while adapting to new financial realities.
Professional Support: Your Essential ResourceWashington public employees don't have to navigate this challenging transition alone. Working with knowledgeable professionals can make a significant difference:
·       Benefits specialists who understand the DRS system
·       Healthcare navigators familiar with PEBB and marketplace options
·       Financial advisors experienced with public employee retirement systems
The Step-by-Step Action PlanFor Washington public employees facing health-related early retirement, this timeline approach has proven effective:
First 30 Days:·       Document your medical condition thoroughly
·       Contact your HR department about disability retirement options
·       Review your current benefits package
·       Start gathering essential financial documents
Days 31-60:·       Meet with a financial advisor familiar with public employee benefits
·       Explore healthcare coverage options
·       Begin disability retirement application if applicable
·       Create a preliminary budget based on potential income sources
Days 61-90:·       Finalize your healthcare transition plan
·       Establish your new budget framework
·       Coordinate benefit start dates to avoid coverage gaps
·       Build your support network of professionals and personal connections
Early retirement due to health issues wasn't in your plans. But as a Washington public employee, you have resources and options that many others don't.
Your years of service have earned you valuable benefits that can help you navigate this transition. Understanding these benefits—and how to maximize them—is key to creating stability during this challenging time.
Sources[1] https://www.drs.wa.gov/life/disability/
[2] https://www.dshs.wa.gov/altsa
[3] https://www.kiplinger.com/retirement/retiring-on-a-fixed-income-strategies
[4] https://www.lifeline.com/blog/living-fixed-income-retirement/
[5] https://www.pivothealth.com/how-to-plan-for-early-retirement-healthcare-expenses-82668

-Seth Deal

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Smart Travel Strategies for Washington Public Employees

4/10/2025

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"I never thought I'd be sipping coffee in Paris on a government pension."

This sentiment reflects what many Washington public employees discover when they approach retirement planning with the right strategies. A fulfilling travel life doesn't require a massive retirement fund or lucky windfall—just practical planning that leverages the unique advantages of public employee benefits.


The Fixed Income Travel Revolution
Let's address the elephant in the room: Living on a fixed income doesn't mean your travel dreams have to shrink. But with travel costs continuing to evolve, it does mean being strategic about how you plan.

A common suggestion is to set aside 5-10% of your annual retirement budget for travel [1]. What many Washington public employees discover, however, is that it's not about how much you spend—it's about how you spend it.


What's Working for Washington Public Employees
Public sector retirees in Washington have developed effective approaches to maximize travel experiences while respecting budget constraints. Here are strategies particularly well-suited to those with government pensions and benefits:
The Smart Timing Strategy
Washington public employees have a unique advantage—flexibility. While others are fighting for peak-season rates, you can:
·       Travel during shoulder seasons (Spring/Fall)
·       Book mid-week flights (Tuesday/Wednesday) [2]
·       Take advantage of last-minute deals
The Extended Stay Approach
One strategy that's particularly effective for those with predictable pension income is the extended stay approach. Instead of racing through multiple cities in a short time, spending a month in one location offers multiple benefits:
·       Monthly accommodations are often cheaper than two weeks in hotels
·       You develop deeper connections with the location and culture
·       The experience becomes more relaxing than exhausting [4]
This approach works especially well for Washington public employees who have the financial stability of regular pension payments.
The Healthcare Factor Most People Forget
This is crucial for Washington public retirees: Medicare still doesn't cover international travel. This often-overlooked factor requires additional planning:
·       Travel insurance for short trips
·       International health coverage for longer stays
·       Medical evacuation coverage (especially important for remote destinations)
Money-Stretching Strategies That WorkThe Group Advantage
Washington has numerous travel groups specifically for retirees. Joining these organizations provides multiple benefits:
·       Access to bulk-rate discounts
·       Pre-arranged group transportation
·       Built-in travel companions with similar interests [5]
Many of these groups understand the specific needs and interests of former public employees.
The Digital Rewards ApproachEffective strategies for 2025 include:
·       Using travel rewards credit cards for everyday purchases
·       Joining hotel loyalty programs and tracking points digitally
·       Taking advantage of senior discounts (always ask!) [6]
Digital tools have made managing these programs significantly easier, even for those who aren't particularly tech-savvy.
The Monthly Money Plan
A strategy that works well with the predictable income of a public pension is the "Travel Tank" approach:
·       Set up a separate travel savings account
·       Automate monthly transfers (even small amounts add up)
·       Use the 50/30/20 rule, taking travel money from the "wants" category

This approach leverages the stability of your pension by creating a dedicated travel fund that grows month by month.


Your Washington public employee pension can absolutely support fulfilling travel experiences—if you're strategic about it.

Many retirees fall into one of two traps:

·       Never traveling because they're too worried about money, or
·       Overspending because they didn't plan properly

There's a sweet spot in the middle, and it's more accessible than you might think.


For Washington public employees, your pension provides a stable foundation that can make travel planning more straightforward than for those relying solely on investment returns.

By applying these strategies to your specific situation, international travel on a government pension becomes not just possible, but practical.
​
Sources
[1] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/12-ways-travel-retirement-without-170120919.html
[2] https://www.kiplinger.com/personal-finance/spending/leisure/travel/604132/a-penny-pinchers-guide-to-travel
[3] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/7-ways-retirees-globe-trotting-140045868.html
[4] https://www.nomadicmatt.com/travel-blogs/families-seniors/
[5] https://www.storypoint.com/resources/health-wellness/senior-travel-groups/
[6] https://states.aarp.org/alaska/budget-travel-tips-for-seniors

-Seth Deal

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